Totebaggers’ unfortunate fashion choices

by L

Which fashion choices do you regret? How old were you then? I predict we will see some generational differences here.

My list: beige plastic glasses (age 8), bright floral leggings (age 11), red plastic GIANT glasses (age 12), overalls and pegged pants (middle school), electric blue camisole to work (age 21),

Trends I’m happy I never got into: permed hair, waterfall bangs, sequined prom dresses, tanning.


152 thoughts on “Totebaggers’ unfortunate fashion choices

  1. I’m a walking fashion mistake, so much so that I’ve asked other SAHMs if I could just follow them around the store and take suggestions.

    I think they think I’m kidding.

    Picking up the used car tomorrow, if all goes well :)

  2. Overalls (may have been high school, eek!), pegged jeans and hyper color shirts (middle school). The clunky black boots w/leggings in college. I never wore doc martens at least.

  3. Denim hat with a giant sunflower on the front circa 7th grade. And my sister had a matching one. This was also during my overalls phase.

  4. In 7th grade, I got sucked into buying a pair of skater shorts, the super-baggy “shorts” that fall as low as long pants that were worn with a pair of Vans shoes (also had those). I was never all that comfortable with the look, but that’s what 7th grade is about.

    During one college summer of sailing and yacht club parties, I was going through a Gatsby phase and bought some yellow Ralph Lauren shorts and the like. A sport coat, too, but I can’t quite remember that one. It just didn’t carry over well outside of Newport and Bermuda.

    There was also my white linen suit that I picked up in Italy and haven’t had occasion to wear since.

  5. “Which fashion choices do you regret?”

    Everything. The entire ’70s, which seemed limited to variants of brown and/or corduroy and/or stripes. The giant plastic ’80s glasses and desperate failed attempts at Farrah hair or the perfect bang flip. The horrid gold sweatpants and plaid shirts or rugby shirts of my undergrad years. The many years of not trying when kids were little and I was working out of the house.

    On the plus side, it makes it really easy to say that I have looked better in the last five years than ever. :-)

    Weird things I probably should regret but don’t really: the big permed hair in the late ’80s/early ’90s — it looks horrendously out of style now, but I had a slightly angular short cut, and it looked awesome with the shape of my face. The neon shirts and comic book boxers and bandannas from Ragstock in college. The funky blazers and the almost-zoot-suit from my early job years, my somewhat edgy/off-center versions of corporate attire (e.g., instead of navy suit with white shirt, I wore a black suit with jewel-toned silk shells, or an ice-pink suit with a black blouse and a funky necklace). The Turkish pants I got in, well, Turkey — by all rights I should be embarrassed, but in college I actually looked awesome in those with a denim jacket and sunglasses.

  6. Those baby doll dresses that were popular in the late 90s and the bodysuit and jeans look. Ugh. I think 90210 is to blame for a lot of my fashion missteps.

  7. LFB – I’m wearing my horrid gold sweatshirt from college right now!

    I am glad that I went to high school/college in the 90s. I was not a fan of low-rise jeans and the skinny jeans trend does not flatter me at all. On second thought, I would have loved to wear yoga pants all day every day like girls in high school do now.

  8. Never too adventurous in this realm. Even to the point that when I started my first real job post grad school DW (then fiancée) had to convince me that it would be ok if one of the dress shirts I was buying was ecru and one was blue. The other 4 were white. I was going for all white.

  9. When I was 7 or 8, I had a pair of knee-high, zip up, white boots that I thought were the coolest thing ever. They were made of some shiny white vinyl type of material. Oh how I loved them. I also though bell-bottom jeans were the best. Can you tell this was during the 70’s?

  10. Also, a poncho which my mom knit for me – some combination of yellow, brown and red I think. Again – in the 70’s.

  11. Matching Laura Ashley dresses with my daughters. One set corduroy flowered print and one set holiday velvet with big lace collars. It is not that they were so ugly or unflattering, but that they symbolize my 15 years when I wasn’t myself.

  12. @TC: and I am wearing my BLUE shirt right now. :-) But you know what’s worse? DD’s HS colors are also blue and gold. As are DH’s grad school. We just cannot get away from it. . . . (guess it’s a good thing I like blue).

  13. “Also, a poncho which my mom knit for me – some combination of yellow, brown and red I think. Again – in the 70’s.”
    I found one of these in my mom’s closet when we downsized her home, and she did not want donated because she knit it. It is brown, rust, pink and gold stripes. It is hanging in my closet waiting for me to be invited to some fabulously ironic retro-70’s party. This will never happen.

  14. Fun topic for a Friday, L.

    In 5th grade I had blue shoes with a sort of platform bottom and a huge Pepsi logo on them. A friend of mine (a very nice boy) asked me quite sincerely, “Did your mom MAKE you get those?”

    Oh, and there were so many others, given the 70s — corduroys of all colors, those “shrinks” that we wore over patterned shirts, Farah Fawcett hair. In law school, it was all about the scrunchies and I had one to match every outfit. Gag.

    And then as a single mom, when online shopping began, and because I am lazy and hate to shop, I would buy everything too big (to ensure it wouldn’t be too small — I didn’t want to have to go to the P.O. to return things) so basically sported something close to a potato sack inspired wardrobe.

    Thank God I met the sartorially gifted DH, who sorted me out fast. I would make more mistakes now if not for the fact that I get his prior approval before I commit to any new outfit.

  15. Oh, God. I looked so terrible! I think I might have had a pair of Marco’s boots with paisley spats.

  16. What look or item did you want but couldn’t have?

    For me it was the legendary fashion stylings of Z. Cavaricci (jeans). The best pic I can find is from Saved by the Bell:

    In retrospect it’s not that much of a loss.

  17. Rhett, including the accessory white straw pointing in the right direction?

  18. Atlanta Mom – we must be around the same age because I relate to all of your items! I wanted to Doc Martens, but they were way too expensive for my budget.

    In college, I also wore Birkenstocks with socks. In Minnesota. In winter. Everyone did – what were we thinking? I remember debating the perfect pair of wool socks to pair with my flannel and Birks to go watch a hockey game with a guy that I had a crush on.

    When I was in preschool, my mom made us some pretty interesting matching outfits, but I don’t know if that counts because I didn’t have a choice, and I don’t know if that was cool in the late 70’s or what.

  19. I wore uniform all through my school years. My “good” clothes were chosen by my mother – she has great, classic taste so no unfortunate style mishaps. My mother was very funny though – she often picked up clothes that she thought looked good on me from nice stores in the city. She used to ask the young sales girls to hold up the outfits because they looked just like me. I told her to stop doing this :-).
    I had straight hair so when perms were in style, I got myself one. It didn’t look bad but there was no way I could keep getting my hair permed.

  20. I had one of those rainbow sweaters in the 80’s and I distinctly remember a huge light denim bomber style jacket.

    Get this – my DD’s Jr Prom dress is made by Jessica Mcclintock. My 8th grade graduation dress was a prairie style Jessica Mcclintock – glad her styles have changed over the years.

  21. Ivy – graduated from college in ’99. Sounds like we are about the same age because I remember the birkenstocks with socks thing. Oh and the adidas athletic sandals. Both of those made a bit of a comeback in the past few years.

    DH is a really great dresser generally, but when I met him in 1999 he had a penchant for wearing Hawaiian shirts. And the man still keeps them in his closet. I think he’s secretly hoping they will come back into style.

  22. Atlanta, I still wear an occasional Hawaiian shirt over white linen shorts and a white Panama Hat when going over to the Beach for a drink.

  23. Hmm, most of my dated clothes I secretly miss. The peasant tops my mother sewed for me that I wore with huaraches in elementary school. The terrycloth spaghetti strapped romper I used to rollerskate around in holding a heavy boom box. The purple vneck top with gold glitter swoops (80s). The cherry-and-white striped blouse with sweetheart neckline and puffy short sleeves and little heart-shaped buttons down the front. The little 98 Rock-branded running shorts that made my mother crazy. The leather mini I picked up in college and all that electric blue stuff. But I do think my college penchant for tight pants / leggings with bold patterns was a mistake. I’m not nearly tall enough to carry that off.

  24. Hot pants! Never felt really comfortable in them but felt I had to wear them to be fashionable. Mini skirts – same as above. Going to Catholic school for 12 years I felt too exposed – not modest enough. Didn’t help that my dad took one look at me waiting for my date in a very mini skirt while it was snowing outside and telling me he hoped I froze my ass off. I did.

    Most of my everyday wardrobe comes from LLBean. I like the fit of their blouses (I am busty and a lot of blouses give me a gaposis). Very convenient and good quality.

  25. The shoulder pad thing was a bit overdone. I might have looked like this in the 1990s.

  26. I was browsing in a teen/young adult clothng store today, and the prairie/hippie look was prominently featured. Lots of fringed stuff, too. I wore a prairie-style dress as a bridesmaid for my sister’s wedding in the 1970s. A floor-length green floral thing.

  27. Atlanta, PTM, you’re illustrating why it is that guys who’ve come from the mainland to do a presentation at a meeting or some such just can’t.stop.talking about how they were assured that the thing to wear was an aloha shirt and haha it seems weird but they were told not to wear a suit so haha they hope this is right! It’s like, just get on with your presentation already, we don’t care that much about your feelings on aloha shirts! I think it’s funny that the author illustrated this with a picture of Billy Kenoi. But yeah, his clothing is plenty professional, that’s not the part of mayoring that’s given him trouble. . .

  28. in 2000 I had a Hawaiian print halter dress, I wore it in 2005 to the beach, got rid of it when I gained weight :(

    loved that dress

  29. I had several Laura Ashley dresses — the type that’s fitted or semi-fitted through the bodice — and that was a good look for me at 20 or so, but I aged out of them. It’s not a look that carries you very far into adulthood.

  30. I wear Birkenstocks now. But not with socks.

    I had baby doll dresses. Loved them. I also loved my pegged pants and body suits and jelly shoes. I feel like my parents really lucked out with having a daughter in high school during the grunge style popularity. Flannel shirts and doc martens.

    I feel regret for the Lula Roe people are wearing now. Have you seen it? Terrible.

  31. I had the bodysuit and jeans. No hypercolor shirts, because I was convinced that the dye would turn out to be carcinogenic. (Even in middle school, I was a worrier.)

    DD gets a kick out of the pictures of me in the 80s in the dresses with the giant puffed sleeves. I saved some for her but she is not interested in wearing anything of the kind in public.

    She has been to an 80s themed party, so HfN you may yet have your day with the poncho.

  32. “Flannel shirts and doc martens.”

    And this is my DSD. Shirts from the thrift store, or sometimes hand me downs from her dad. The Docs were by far the most pricey part of her entire wardrobe.

  33. Yep – same era Atlanta Mom. I am a year older than you or a year younger than the 90210 characters. I was a HS junior at the time that they were chanting “Donna Martin Graduates!”

    My DH also used to have a ton of Hawaiian shirts or bowling type shirts. They’ve mostly been shelved although he does like to wear them sometimes on beachy vacations.

  34. Cat, I had never seen Lula Roe so I looked it up, and realized I haven’t seen it IRL either. Were they trying to copy Lilly Pulitzer?

    Everyone in my neighborhood wears either Lululemon and Athleta (runners/pilates/spincycle devotees) or tunic sweaters, leggings, and boots in neutrals.

  35. I clicked on another pair of jellies and the also-boughts are leg warmers, fingerless fishnet gloves, an early-Madonna hair bow, and neon bracelets. Wait, are they carrying this stuff only to furnish college students 80s parties?

  36. The striped bellbottoms we all wore when I was around 7 or 8. Getting my hair permed around 1980. Ah, big hair

  37. Not meaning to hijack, but since yesterday’s thread seems to have died, need recommendations for a new dryer — DH says we are going tonight. @DD, what did you end up buying? And Rhett, thanks, but I am *not* spending $1400 on a dryer. :-) (besides, our current one also has steam and totally lied about the need to iron). Current is a Whirlpool Cabrio (with steam!) that ran @$750. I prefer analog dials but love the auto-dry sensing of my current one.

  38. I also like aloha shirts, bowling shirts, and guayaberas, partly because I dislike untucked men’s shirts with tails hanging out. I know it’s the style, but I like to see a shirt tucked in unless it has a flat hem.

  39. Off topic – hi from Memphis! I am at a conference. This has to do with the earlier thread on cultural differences. I am going frickin’ insane here. Everything takes twice as long as it needs to becasuse everyone moves so SLOOOOOW. Servers stop to chat with each other for several minutes between customers. We were at a cafeteria style family restaurant for lunch, and a line that would have taken 10 minutes max up north, took 30 minutes. It is life in slo-mo. And i have never seen such a depopulated city before. Taking a “trolley-bus” through the downtown area, past office buildings and government buildings, at 8:30 am on a Friday – not a soul on the street, and a car might pass us every 3 or 4 minutes. The street was largely empty of traffic. There were 5 people on the “trolley bus”. Amazing

  40. And Rhett, thanks, but I am *not* spending $1400 on a dryer. :-)

    You must have missed the part about it virtually eliminating the need to iron.

  41. Wine, legwarmers? Huh. Come to think of it, those legwarmers I had in 8th grade to wear over jeans (it was a done thing!) fall in the regret category.

    I wonder if they’ll bring back the off-shoulder Flashdance-style sweatshirts too?

  42. (besides, our current one also has steam and totally lied about the need to iron).

    You get what you pay for.

  43. LfB – I have the whirpool carbio set and love them. Not sure if you’re looking for a new brand or not… (and I missed the conversations this week). I’m OK with no analog buttons or dials. And I love how much control i have over the wash cycle and the dry cycle. We do about 1-2 loads a day (average) and it’s doing great. Even takes baby food stains out of everything.

  44. “Everything takes twice as long as it needs to becasuse everyone moves so SLOOOOOW. ”

    I prefer it that way. What’s the fu(king rush, anyway? Enjoy life a little bit.

  45. LFB: Do not get an LG drier. Ours broke within 3 years and had to have the control panel replaced (3 weeks–part was backordered because this *happens so often*–and $350)

  46. I have no idea re: LulaRoe. But it is tragic. Especially the leggings.

    I don’t regret my jellies. I loved them. Plastic and tiny heels and glitter! What more could you want?

    I would wear leg warmers now with the right outfit.

  47. +1 no LG – my mom has had nothing but problems with her LG washer and dryer

  48. Forget the clothes. Please, just give me my old body back. And let me keep my current wisdom so that I actually *like and appreciate* my old body.

  49. Forget the clothes. Please, just give me my old body back. And let me keep my current wisdom so that I actually *like and appreciate* my old body.


    it was so “easy” to lose weight in my 20’s

  50. Milo – when you are hungry, needing to eat NOW is not stopping to enjoy life a little bit as much as forestalling the meltdown that will occur in 5 minutes. ;)

  51. Mooshi, Memphis is a night city. Those same streets will be filled this evening. I love the music and food there, but you do have to get used to the pace.

    I had the 80s perm, and I hate to look at pictures from that time. I do have one picture in a knitted red poncho. I am about 6, and I used to love that poncho. I can’t believe some of the outfits in my school photos from the 70s, but I do look like all of the other kids. It was just a crazy time.

  52. Yes on the old body, that of course I thought was horridly fat. Some things I don’t regret –

    My 1970 polyester jumpsuit with two full length zippers. My 60s high school handmade leather sandals. My college years hexagonal wire rim glasses – glass, not plastic, that always slid down my nose since my prescription was more than 7.00 with astigmatism.

  53. And the nicest gift my mom ever gave me – for my sweet sixteen – a handmade (by someone else) hand dyed woven slate blue and warm purple poncho/serapé in a checked Op Art pattern. I still have it.

  54. Jellies hurt my feet. But perhaps I had cheap knockoffs. I think those shoes were the start of my lifelong need for sensible shoes.

    I regret wearing black tights and leggings under jean shorts. Oddly enough earlier this week this is the exact outfit my 7 year old wore to school.

  55. I saw that, Sky. I wondered how many of those parental objection forms her chambers arrived in a deluge.

  56. Je ne regrette rien! C’mon, we wore that stuff because it was in style. It was fun.

  57. Cat – I had to look up the Lula Roe thing but I have seen those! Friend from high school is selling them and keeps posting about it on FB and there are other friends from high school ordering them and all I could think about was what grown woman would wear those leggings? I am totally perplexed.

    I loved those jellies. And I did love all of the things I posted about at the time but the baby doll dress was really not the best look on me, I’m too short.

  58. I have been waiting for twenty plus years for a fashion designer to realize that the world is full of short, slightly plump women who would like to wear something that flatters them, rather than clothes designed for 5’10” sticks.

  59. “I had a pair of knee-high, zip up, white boots that I thought were the coolest thing ever. They were made of some shiny white vinyl type of material.”

    Go go boots!! Laugh In!! Goldie Hawn!! Ruth Buzzi!!

  60. My parents were definitely of the ‘knock offs are good enough’ school of though. I had nothing that was cool/name brand. I swore I wouldn’t do that to my own kids. And now mine truly could not care less about clothes/name brands. If it’s functional enough, they’ll wear it. Not into the Nike socks, or Under Armour anything.

    I distinctly remember being allowed to get a new dress to wear to a classmate’s bar mitzvah party, but they wouldn’t also buy me new shoes. So I had to wear awful beat up shoes with my new dress, and could not have been more mortified (“Brown goes with everything! You’re fine!” NO IT DOES NOT). I guess one of my regrets is not making more of a stink over that one, because I still remember how those shoes brought down the entire outfit.

  61. “There was also my white linen suit that I picked up in Italy”

    I almost bought one at Kuppenheimer’s.

    I narrowly missed some trends of my day, e.g., leisure suits, Angel Flight pants.

    However, I did own a whole bunch of John Stockton length shorts.

  62. “DD’s HS colors are also blue and gold. As are DH’s grad school. We just cannot get away from it. . .”

    Aren’t the school colors for all the Cal States and UCs some variants of blue and gold?

  63. “his clothing is plenty professional, that’s not the part of mayoring that’s given him trouble. . .”

    LOL. . .

    IMO, it would look more professional if he tucked in the shirt.

    BTW, is Doug Chin still investigating him? Did you know that they were WSRSOL classmates?

  64. I deeply regret the Alcott and Andrews suits with stiff Oxford cloth shirts and floppy bow ties that all young female lawyers wore back in the day. A pair of clunky running shoes (sensible pumps stored at the office) completed the look.
    Also the garish Lands End rugby shirts popular in college.
    And stirrup pants, a sin I had completely forgotten till someone else mentioned it. Worn with oversize tunics in the early SAHM days.

  65. “Flannel shirts and doc martens.”

    Doc Martens are the favorite footwear of one of DS’ besties.

    At their school, the 8th grade dance is a Big Deal. She wore a very pretty dress with her Docs. Another of their friends wore black high-top Chucks with her very pretty dress.

    The dance was held on a Saturday night at the school. We were there for DS’ violin lesson and watched the kids getting dropped off (DS had been invited to a friend’s house with a bunch of other boys for a pre-dance meal, and the friend’s parents dropped off all the boys), and saw the kids all dressed up. Many of the girls were tottering on heels that were obviously much higher than anything they were used to. DS and his friends all wore ties.

    Fast forward a few hours, when the kids are getting picked up, and most of those girls with the heels are walking barefoot and carrying their heels (and some of the boys are barefoot and carrying their dress shoes too).

    Oh, and DS’ friends with the Docs and Chucks were still wearing their shoes.

  66. Milo – how much do you want to bet that he had no idea that torture and killing family members wasn’t allowed?

    Did you watch the debate?

  67. LfB– I don’t have an LG dryer, but we have a Kenmore fridge made by LG that has given us more problems than all the other fridges I, or my parents, have ever owned. It didn’t help that the repair guys had a problem diagnosing one of those problems.

    I checked online, and found a lot of experiences similar to ours– fridges selected due to the design and features, and they were great when they worked, but reliability was poor.

    You might want to check Consumer Reports reliability ratings. I’d prioritize reliability over other features, but OTOH, my primary dryer looks more like this:

    BTW, I would suggest a dryer like mine as at least a backup. If you have an enclosed garage, string it over the hoods of your cars so the engine heat will help dry the clothes.

  68. If my kids request certain brand name items of clothing, I always consider the request and will buy items within reason. On a day to day basis they wear their street clothes for play and to attend church. Other than their sneakers, they own a clean pair of formal shoes (in a neutral shade so any nice clothes go with those) DD also owns boots. I have seen their friends out of uniform and even then the kids dress alike.

  69. Alcott and Andrews! I totally forgot about them, but I got my first suit from their DC store. I can even remember the exact suit because it was my navy interview suit. I agree about the boring clothes, but their quality was excellent for the price.

  70. BTW, is Doug Chin still investigating him?

    I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised. My sister worked with him (Billy, not Doug Chin) at one point and as you may guess he was a fun guy to work with.

  71. HM, it’s really disappointing what happened with Kenoi. I heard a number of his WSRSOL classmates talk about him, and the consensus seemed to be that while he wasn’t a great student, he had the potential to do very good things in politics, in large part because he has a personality that makes people enjoy working with him, and he doesn’t alienate anyone.

    Would that be consistent with your sister’s take on him?

    BTW, two examples of why I think it might make sense for DS to go to a HSS for undergrad (if he can get in) and WSRSOL if we wants to go into law and work here. The WSRSOL network seems to be very strong locally.

  72. HM, I’ll add that the consensus seemed to be that they were happy when he was elected because they thought he would be a very good mayor; thus the disappointment.

  73. So the dryer saga is resolved (thanks for all the advice). DH spent an hour taking it apart before declaring it dead. I got online, spent an hour looking at options, decided it was way too complicated and I liked the one we had, so we just bought the upgraded/larger Cabrio. Which, conveniently, is on massive sale if you get it in grey, and Sears can deliver Sunday. Boom, done, and I never even had to put shoes on.

    Thus proving yet again that it is very, very nice to have extra money.

  74. “Thus proving yet again that it is very, very nice to have extra money.”

    And that money can reduce stress.

  75. @Finn: precisely. It was the realization that I don’t need to make the perfect decision that was so awesome, because I can afford the downside of the less-than-optimal choice.

    But I will happily invest in one of your drying systems for my garage — just as soon as I can get the damn garage built. . . .

  76. I suspect it’s not a coincidence that SNL was scheduled to return right after a Republican debate. Goodness knows what they’ll do with that bit.

  77. I’ve been laughing so much at some of their jokes in the actual debates that I was starting to think it was an episode of SNL.

  78. LfB, and if you pay/paid with your Citibank card, you can add it to Price Rewind in case it goes on sale in the next ~90 days

  79. I saw leg warmers at Target while we were looking at Pokemon cards so they must be “in” again. This post made me think about fashion trends but I’m too unfashionable to have regrets, I think. It also made me wonder what my children will regret about their attire. Mostly, I’m glad we’re at the stage where we don’t have to argue about wearing clothes to leave the house. I was glad I have great neighbors when we were at the come-outside-naked-and-ask-where-the-swim-trunks-are stage.

  80. I find the negative comments about LG interesting because that’s been the exact opposite of our experience. Our washer that we got at the same time as our dryer is still going strong. And CR gives them good reviews. But everyone has their own experiences.

  81. You must have missed the part about it virtually eliminating the need to iron.

    How much do you iron that this is actually an issue? Granted I’m a typical male when it comes to clothes and I’ve never ironed anything in my life, but even DW can’t remember the last time she ironed something.

  82. Cat – I read a few references to it.

    On appliances, just yesterday on our refrigerator, the lever that actuates the ice and water dispenser malfunctioned and is swinging freely. Now what? I think it would be really stupid to replace a while refrigerator for this, but it’s a pain to get into the ice maker by hand every time.

    I’ll google the problem and call an independent appliance repair guy on Craigslist.

  83. You all impress me with your repair skills. Despite half-hearted attempts to fix minor things, I’m pretty useless in this regard. My H is more skilled, but he is very selective on the home repairs he tackles. I think the most sophisticated repair he’s done recently is replace a broken chain thingy in the toilet.

    “How much do you iron that this is actually an issue?”

    I can imagine Rhett ironing his sheets and t-shirts before he got the fancy steam dryer. :)

  84. My clothes dryer is about 20 years old. It’s been making a loud banging noise for at least 5 years, and I used to think it was on its last legs and about to break down. But it keeps going.

  85. My electrolux washer/dryer combo is three years old. We have replaced the control panel on the the washing machine twice and had the drum disintegrate on the dryer.

    When calculating the water savings from going from top loading washing machines to front loaders, the use assumption is 5.3 loads per week. We do significantly more than that.

  86. I was angry when I had to replace our washer at the end of last year because it was barely five years old. It was a Maytag, but maytag and Whirlpool are one company so everything is shared. I did buy a Cabrio based on the recommendations here and from my neighbor that owns an appliance store. He told me the same thing that my appliance store told me; certain appliances that were manufactured 20 years ago seemed to last forever. The quality is no longer the same, and most brands will not last more than 6 or 7 years if the washer/dryer was manufactured in the last 10 years. This seems to be our experience, but it is annoying.

  87. “How much do you iron that this is actually an issue?”

    I don’t, but DH has to wear suits or blazer/tie almost every day, and button-downs the rest. Most of the shirt tends to be ok, but he irons the collars and button area every morning.

    ‘And my underpants.”


  88. Dh irons every work day (even his non-iron shirts). I iron once a week maybe, used to be more when I wore a lot of button downs. I’ve moved to outfits that don’t require ironing, purely because I’m lazy and bad at it. I used to iron my sheets before we had kids, now I barely make my bed!

    We have LG washer/dryer going on five years now and so far so good. Now our Samsung fridge is another story. We’ve only had it three and we hate it! The ice maker is constantly jamming. I can see DH replacing it when we do our kitchen renovation even though it’s not very old.

  89. We apparently are oddballs with a Fisher & Paykel washer and dryer. The washer is an he washer but without the glass front door. Our laundry is in the garage, and with the configuration we had at the time, a front loader wouldn’t have worked. The set comes with a matching top loading dryer, which is an odd style, but strangely is easier to load and unload. We had an issue with the dryer’s heating element early on– that was still under warranty, and the FP repair guy who came out said he’s seen in about 2-3 times a year. But at this point both units are 6 years old and otherwise in good shape. (Knock on wood!)

  90. You all impress me with your repair skills.

    That’s because you can find instructions and videos to fix just about anything online. When someone knocked off the Sideview mirror on the highlnader, I bought a replacement for $55 and watched a video of how to replace it.

  91. We have had our LG front loader and matching dryer for 8 years. No issues at all. I’m surprised by how many repairs you’ve all had. I figured our set should last 15 years or so.

    I hate ironing. DH sends his dress shirts out. I have a steamer that I use for knits, and I avoid most other things that would need an actual iron.

  92. I iron some tablecloths, napkins and my own cotton shirts (with light starch). The pile builds up until I decide to pull out the ironing board while binge watching or during sports broadcasts. DH’s few remaining dress shirts go to the cleaner along with his wool pants and musician’s tuxedo (sadly retired, now). I am pretty adept at getting his vintage aloha shirts, flannel/pinwale cord shirts, and khakis out of the dryer quickly enough. Often I just drape them over a rack out of the washer to air dry partially, and then touch up dry them for 15 minutes while doing something else in the basement.

    I fix a lot of stuff myself, too, from online pdf manuals or youtube videos. It really depends on whether the diagnosis of the failing part is 100% certain or just 1 out of 3 possible parts. With electronics it is often the latter. The repair guy will arrive with all three parts and try it out. I fear I will spend thousands of dollars on several appliances if I set foot in the showroom, so I am hoping that I can get a few more years out of the dishwasher via repair. Since DH does 95% of the dishes and likes this one, a replacement purchase is one of the few over which he has veto rights, so it requires a joint physical trip, not just an online review. I did the math, and the purchase cost of the old one and the replacement one, assuming similar life, is approx 100 per useful year. If I can get 3 more years for 350, I am still in the right neighborhood.

  93. Got the car :)

    ’15 Enclave leather AWD, used, $35k.

    Took longer than I thought but worth it, since we saved ~$10k over the new model with the options we wanted.

    Thanks for all the advice!

  94. I wonder if man buns will be a future regrettable fashion choice. I still don’t find them appealing, but I’m old.

    “That’s because you can find instructions and videos to fix just about anything online.”

    Don’t underestimate a klutz’s inability to repair something, even with video instructions. Or to cause more damage when attempting a repair*. If I made it a hobby, I could summon up the patience and energy to learn repairs, but at this point I have no desire.

    * Stripped/stuck screws when trying to change the oil in my car and a botched up doorbell repair are just two instances where my attempts just made things worse and had me calling the professionals to clean up after me.

  95. Enjoy your car Sky !
    Milo – I have yet to read his novels. I have seen the way people are attached to their alma maters in this area – via sports. I can understand his feud with the Citadel.
    Speaking of sports, DS’s soccer league has banned the kids from doing headers.

  96. Every 9th grader should be required to read The Water is Wide, Pat Conroy’s memoir of the year he spent teaching on Daufuskie Island, SC. What a book. He is gone too soon.

  97. Congrats, Sky. I drove an Enclave for a few years and it was terrific for our family. Hope you’ll enjoy it!

  98. I wonder if man buns will be a future regrettable fashion choice.

    They’re already a regrettable fashion choice.

  99. Back from the south, and it is such relief to be at normal pace again.

    to the person who said “I prefer it that way. What’s the fu(king rush, anyway? Enjoy life a little bit.” in response to my complaint about standing in the slow southern food line…
    I am all for enjoying life but standing in a line of people waiting for lunch in a small space is not my idea of an activity to savor.

  100. And at the intersection of ironing and southern culture… One of the bizarre things I remember about sorority girls at the big university in my upper South hometown is that they used to IRON their hair ribbons. And their jeans. Why?

  101. Congrats Sky! Welcome to the club of almost-new Enclave lovers. 😉

  102. With increasing fabrics made of synthetic blends, the need to iron has diminished. However, in the past it wasn’t so with cottons and linens. Also, in the home country silk fabric and embroideried clothes were hand washed and line dried. Those had to be ironed after.

  103. “Back from the south, and it is such relief to be at normal pace again.”

    I will echo HFN’s perfect line from the other day. Bless your heart.

  104. Milo, I too was sorry to read of Pat Conroy’s death, although I knew that he had pancreatic cancer. His descriptions of the low country of South Carolina were so vivid as were the wounded people he met. He was my favorite author.

    It is interesting. I was re-reading The Water is Wide on Saturday when I learned of his death.

  105. Louise,
    I read an interview with Sue Klepold, who seems like an amazing woman. How is the book?

  106. Scarlett – it was very enlightening. Yes, she came off as a very strong woman and that situation could happen to any of us.

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